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the deadlines that we're facing on jobs and taxes and investment. this is not some run of the mill debate. this isn't about which political party can come out on top in negotiations. we've got important decisions to make, and they'll have a real impact on businesses and families all across the country. our ultimate goal, our long-term goal is to get our long-term deficit under control in a way that is balanced and is fair. that would be good for businesses, for our economy, for future generations. i believe both parties can and will work together in the coming weeks to get that done. we know how that gets done. we're iffing to have to raise a little more revenue. we got to cut on the spending we don't need, building on the trillion dollars of spending cuts we've already made, and if we combine those two things, we can create a path where america is paying its bills while still being able to make investments and the things we need to grow like education and infrastructure. so we know how to do that, but in washington nothing is easy, so, you know, there's going to be some prolonged negotia
for congress and the white house to act, to stop the tax increase and punishing spending cuts, that deadline is coming up quicker than you may realize because did you know, congress plans to end its current session on december 21st? check your calendar as we did today. that's two weeks from friday. that means that under congressional rules any agreement, any legislation to fix this whole mess would have to be filed here by december 28th. here's the kicker. the president currently plans to leave town the day before that, on the 17th of this month. so the yearly obama trip to hawaii is set to start a week from next monday. you feel me here? see where i'm going? the window closing faster than folks think. what are our decisionmakers doing right now? among other things they are apparently sending signals through the media. republicans saying time to get moving. the president saying there is a deal to be had fairly quickly if the republicans come around to raising taxes on the wealthy. let me give you the president first. >> -- good faith offer to avert the fiscal crisis, and that offer included
court press asking americans to pressure congress to keep middle class tax cuts for families earning $250,000 or less. >> it is too important for washington to screw this up. now is the time for us to work on what we all agree to, which is let's keep middle class taxes low. tweet, use the hashag my2k or e-mail, post it on a member of congress' facebook wall, do what it takes to communicate a sense of urgency. i'll sign this bill as soon as congress sends it my way. i got to repeat, i've got a pen. i'm ready to sign it. so -- >> the president wants republicans to first agree to keep the middle class tax cuts, and then he wants to move on and tackle the rest of the fiscal cliff problems. do not count on groundswell of republican support. in fact, one republican, congressman tom cob, proposed a similar idea and conservative republicans shot him down. we'll get to that here in a moment. quite a moment today. also president obama is meeting today with 14 key ceos to try to get their support for keeping those middle class tax cuts. the ceos are from huge, huge companies here. macy's, home
this? more washington gridlock. no, it's worse -- look, our taxes are about to go up. not the taxes on our dividends though, right? that's a big part of our retirement. oh, no, it's dividends, too. the rate on our dividends would more than double. but we depend on our dividends to help pay our bills. we worked hard to save. well, the president and congress have got to work together to stop this dividend tax hike. before it's too late. [ "the odd couple" theme playing ] humans. even when we cross our "t"s and dot our "i"s, we still run into problems -- mainly other humans. at liberty mutual insurance, we understand. that's why our auto policies come with accident forgiveness if you qualify, where your rates won't go up due to your first accident, and new car replacement, where if you total your new car, we give you the money for a new one. call... to talk to an insurance expert about everything else that comes standard with our base auto policy. [ tires squeal ] and if you get into an accident and use one of our certified repair shops, your repairs are guaranteed for life. call... to
, is on middle class taxes. and as i've said before, we've got two choices. if congress does nothing, every family in america ll see their tacks automatically go up at the beginning of next year. starting january 1st, every family in america will see their taxes go up. a typical middle class family of four would see its income taxes go up by $2200. $2200 out of people's pockets. that means less money for buying grocery, less money for filling prescriptions, less money for buying diapers. it means a tougher choice between paying the rent and paying tuition and middle class families just can't afford that right now. by the way, businesses can't afford it either. yesterday i sat down with some small business owners who stressed this point. economists predict that if taxes go up on the middle class next year, consumers will spend nearly $200 billion lesson things like cars and clothes and furniture and that obviously means fewer customers, that cuts into business profits, that makes businesses less likely to invest and higher which means fewer jobs and that can drag our entire economy down. now
a middle class tax cut as first part of any deal. and he linked republicans to scrooge today while touring a pennsylvania toy factory. listen. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their income taxes automatically go up on january 1st. every family, everybody here, you'll see your taxes go up on january 1st. i mean, i'm assuming that doesn't sound too good to you. that is sort of like the lump of coal you get for christmas. that's a scrooge christmas. >> that's pretty scroogy, right? president obama's proposal calls for $1.6 trillion in new tax revenue. $50 billion for new stimulus spending. and about $400 billion in entitlement cuts. republicans say, the president's proposal's nothing but a political stunt. here is boehner. >> the white house spends three weeks trying to develop a proposal and they send one up here that calls for $1.6 trillion in new taxes, calls for a little -- not even $400 billion in cuts, and they want to have this extra spending that is actually greater than the amount they're willing to cut. i mean, it is -- it was not a serious proposal. and
's taxes will be going up january 1. as emily schmidt reports, a lot's happening not at the negotiating table, it's happening at the sunday talk shows. it's been 16 days since president obama and congressional leaders gathered to talk about how to avoid the fiscal cliff, the automatic spending cuts and tax increases that go into effect january 1. >> i think we're farther apart but we're coming together. >> i think we're nowhere, period. >> thursday treasury secretary tim geithner presented obama's plan, including $1.4 trillion in tax increases. >> there's not going to be an agreement without rates going up. >> president obama also proposed a $16 billion of spending cuts. >> i'm just flabbergasted. i looked at him and said you can't be serious. >> the house speaker says republicans put increased revenues including efforts to close tax loopholes and put the tax cuts on the table instead of raising tax rates for anyone. >> if there's another way to get income from upper income americans that doesn't hurt our economy, then why wouldn't we consider it. >> those are publicly unchanged deadlin
-stakes game of chicken. secretary tim geithner said there's no deal unless republicans agree to raise taxes on the wealthy. >> if they are going to force higher rates on virtually all americans because they are unwilling to let tax rates go up on 2% of americans, then that's the choice we'll have to make. >> republicans are furious. they don't like democrats drawing a red line in the sand. >> i think we are going over the cliff. it is pretty clear to me they made a political calculation. >> president barack obama and gop leaders held one face to face meeting on the fiscal cliff since the election. that meeting took place more than two weeks ago. >>> the kansas city chiefs suited up and took the field today against carolina. that's despite the shock and horror of yesterday's suicide of linebacker jevon belcher. stay right there with full details in a full report on cnn in just a minute. >>> high winds and heavy rain are pummeling the northwest. the rainfall will continue throughout the day. some places have already seen a foot of rain since yesterday. people living in northern california, or
$800 billion in tax revenue in the fiscal cliff negotiations. president obama has said there will be no deal unless taxes are raised on the wealthiest americ americans. but staunch conservatives don't want any kind of new taxes. that's where speaker boehner's job gets really tough. on piers morgan tonight newt gingrich said if all else fails, go over the cliff. >> i think that no deal is better than a bad deal. i think going off this cliff is less dangerous than letting things build up for a year or two years to an even bigger cliff. i think that the president clearly has staked out a position of nonseriousness. and i think that it's very difficult for the house republicans right now to find any practical way to get his attention. so, he just won an election. he is feeling very good about himself. he is posturing brilliantly, putting the republicans in a corner. they need to relax. they don't have an election until november 2014. >> senior congressional correspondent dana bash joins me now. dana, can we expect fire woworkt the meeting this morning? >> reporter: possibly
is they aren't moving until they hear the republicans agree to raise tax rates on the wealthiest. listen to what the president had to say. >> i think that, you know, we have the potential of getting a deal done, but it is going to require what i talked about during the campaign, which is a balanced responsible approach to deficit reduction that can help give businesses certainty and make sure the country grows. and unfortunately the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. he talks, for example, about $800 billion worth of revenues, but he says he's going to do that by lowering rates. when you look at math, it doesn't work. >> reporter: so unbalanced approach is the white house's nice way of saying you got to be kidding me. jay carney used the phrase in the briefing just now that the proposal from the republicans was a bunch of magic needs and fairy dust and the current standoff is continuing with neither side talking today, brooke. >> magic beans, fairy dust, la la land, it is laughable but not. it is serious stuff that affects every one of us come january 1st, 28 days to g
taking the wheel of talks to avert the january tax hike. that's a senate side of the capitol. here's treasury secretary geithner emerging in to the shadows. there he is right there. about to pay a call on house speaker john boehner. speaker boehner a key republican and after his meeting with geithner this morning, boehner said these urgent talks haven't moved forward in two weeks. keep in mind, they need to get it done by january 1st and here's boehner getting grumpy with cnn's kate baldwin. take a look. >> to this point, most -- most public statements have been optimistic, confident, hopeful. we're all sensing a very different tone from you right now. are you walking away from talks? have things completely broken down, mr. speaker? >> no, no, no. stop. i got to tell you. i'm disappointed in where we are and disappointed in what's happened over the last couple of weeks. but going over the fiscal cliff is serious business. and i'm here seriously trying to resolve it. and i would hope the white house would get serious, as well. >> all right. so once again, here are the cliff notes ri
, but it was a nonstarter for the republicans. too many tax increases. now the republicans have sent over a deal and still no meeting of the minds. you guessed it, not enough tax increases. here we go again. the deal does offer up $600 billion in save frtion medicare reform and other spending cuts and it also suggests raising $800 billion in revenue through tax reform instead of increases, but it just will not budge on raising those taxes on the wealthiest 2% of americans. and that is why democrats aren't budging. >> we're glad to finally see republicans joining in the negotiating process instead of watching from the sidelines, but while their proposal may be serious, it's also a nonstarter. they know any agreement that raises taxes on the middle class to protect unnecessary giveaways to the top 2% is doomed from the start. it won't pass. democrats won't agree to it, president obama wouldn't sign such a bill, and the american people won't support it. >> so let's bring in dan lothian because he's at the white house where the president is just about now meeting with a group of state governors. we'll get to
for $1.6 trillion in new taxes. that includes letting the bush era tax cuts expire for those earning more than $250,000 a year. it's also pushing for a new $50 billion stimulus package and offering $400 billion in new cuts to medicare and other entitlement programs. but republican house speaker john boehner flatly rejected the plan on the table and what he calls the white house's unwillingness to compromise. >> i was just flabbergasted. i looked at him, i said, you can't be serious. i've never seen anything like it. you know, we've got seven weeks between election day and the end of the year. and three of those weeks have been wasted with this nonsense. >> you know, i think right now the best thing to do is for them to come to us and say, look, here's what we think makes sense. we've told them what we think makes sense. what we can't do is try to figure out what's going to be good for them. they have to come tell us. >> house minority leader and democrat nancy pelosi also jumping into the fray. she's renewed threats to bring a middle income tax cut bill to the house floor if boehner refus
unbalanced and not serious. translation? no tax hikes on the wealthy so democrats said forget about it. we thought you should take a look. it totals $2.2 trillion in deficit reduction over ten years. the part that stood out to us was $600 billion in proposed savings in medicare reforms. how? in part by raising the age of eligibility to 65 to maybe 67. turning down the gop proposal, dan pfieffer said, quote, it provides no details on which deductions they would eliminate, which loopholes they will close or which medicare savings they would achieve." let's head now to the white house and dan lothian. the white house will not offer a counter proposal, right? what's going on here? >> reporter: well, you know, i think the white house is digging in. the president said early on in this process that he would only sit down and really move forward, negotiate on this in any meaningful way if the tax hikes for the wealthy expired. and republicans have been pushing back on that -- tax breaks rather for the wealthy expired and republicans have been pushing back on that, say they go believe that will be
's really no other way to say it. they stopped at the request for $1.6 trillion in new tax revenue, which probably gives us a bit more context to house speaker john boehner's response to all of this yesterday. >> no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. >> so, let's not forget here just how close we are to this cliff. cliff day is 32 days away. you might say we're kind of teetering, regardless of what the republicans think, regardless of how loud they may be laughing, the president is awalking. he's taking this pitch on the road, and he is heading as we speak to a suburb in philadelphia to tour a toy factory and give a speech there. but this is not just your average factory. it's not just your average tour. it's not your normal glad-handing here. in fact, the republicans are saying this is just president obama campaigning. they're angry that he's off selling this proposal to the public instead of sitting down at the table with them and negotiating back in washington. it's a great shot, though, to watch marine one tak
with chief executives of some of the biggest companies to gainlg gauge how the looming tax hikes and spending cuts could impact businesses. marisa mayer, ceo of yahoo! is one of those. she made her first public comments since taking the helm and giving birth. she invoked some legendary wisdom. >> in my life there were three things, god, family and the green bay packers, in that order. right? and i think that for me it's god, family and yahoo! in that order. >> mayer was honored at fortune magazine's dinner for the most powerful women. >>> 34-year-old michael dunn facing a murder charge, killing jordan davis in the process. it reportedly sparked over a fight about loud music. it's reminding some of the trayvon martin case. dunn's attorney says that's not so. >> kill that [ bleep ] that [ bleep ] dead. you dead [ bleep ]. and sees that much of a shotgun coming up over the rim of the suv, which is up higher than his jetta, and all he sees are heavily tinted front windows that are up and the back windows that are down and the car has at least four black men in it and he doesn't know how old anybo
and amazon of avoiding their taxes or minimizing them and not the right way. we'll have a live report. everything has to be just right. perfection is in the details. ♪ get to holiday fun faster with pillsbury cookie dough. five days later, i had a massive heart attack. bayer aspirin was the first thing the emts gave me. now, i'm on a bayer aspirin regimen. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. [ woman ] learn from my story. >>> welcome back, everyone. while washington bickers over the fiscal cliff and who's going to pay more in taxes, in great britain, lawmakers are telling some american companies it is time to start paying their fair share there in the uk. even throwing around terms such as shame, outrageous when talking about it. executives from google, amazon, and starbucks all appeared before a parliamentary committee looking into how international companies minimize the tax they pay in the uk. richard quest is in london to explain it all. now, richard, not necessarily talking about tax evasion here. it's more like avoidance, mini
a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. a huge package of tax hikes and spending cuts will kick in january one. they spent time blaming each other for not getting serious. in his weekly address, president obama says he is ready to make a deal but wouldn't accept continued tax cuts for the wealthiest people. >>> the senate has already passed a bill to keep income taxes from going up on middle class families. democrats in the house are ready to do the same thing. and if we can just get a few house republicans on board, i'll sign this bill as soon as congress sends it my way. but, it is unacceptable for some republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts hostage simply because they refuse to let tax rates go up on the richest americans. >> republicans say tax hikes on the wealthy mean tax hikes for small businesses, something they insist they cannot accept. here is long-time gop senator orin hatch. >> unfortunately, some on the other side of the aisle are indicating a disastrous thelma and louise idea, that will put us in jeopardy, for small business and other parts of the e
yesterday. it calls for $1.6 trillion in tax increases over a ten-year period more than republicans had anticipated. in addition to that, $400 billion in spending cuts that will come later. much of that not really specified. we're looking at entitlements such as medicare. and then the plan also includes $50 billion in stimulus spending. democrats see this really as sort of the opening salvo in these negotiations. early on in this process, both sides appear to show some level of optimism that this would get done. in the last few days and certainly yesterday it just seems like both sides are so far apart, it's not unusual for us to see this kind of posturing and other negotiations, tough negotiations over the last four years or so. you'll see things build up whether it appears that it's going to get done. then they fall apart. in the end it does happen. the hope is that that would happen here as well. both sides seemingly far apart still. >> neither side, dan, wants to say anything that would potentiallyg suggest they're giving up any leverage. republican aides say the white house author
. obama, as you know, is standing very firm on the $1.6 trillion in tax hikes. he is offering $400 billion in cuts from the so-called entitlements but also wants to spend $50 billion on infrastructure. mr. boehner, on the other hand, is offering half -- half of what the president's number is on those taxes and not in what you'd say increases. more like closing of loopholes. he also wants much deeper cuts in entitlements and beyond. so we're watching both ends of pennsylvania avenue this hour. we've got dan lothian who is standing pat at the white house to figure out just exactly what the movements are every day. dana bash is on capitol hill. dan, let me start with you. we were just hearing from the president and we were cut off by a nasty satellite. let me talk about these business people and what exactly they can bring to the table because it seems as though he's soliciting them for advice. >> reporter: he is. but at the same time, you brought up a good point, that the president really has been doing a lot of the pressure as opposed to sitting down with lawmakers face-to-face. he's using
's taxes will go up january 1st, and as emily schmidt reports, there's been a lot of talking on the sunday talk shows but not at the negotiating table. >> reporter: it's been 16 days since president obama and congressional leaders met to talk about how to avoid the fiscal cliff. the automatic spending cuts and tack increases that begin to kick in if there's no agreement by january 1st. 16 days to get here. >> i think we're far apart still, but i think we're moving closer together. >> i would say we're nowhere, period. we're nowhere. >> reporter: thursday treasury secretary timothy geithner proposed president obama's plan which included $1.6 trillion in tax revenue coming largely from an expiration of bush era tax cuts for families who make more than $250,000 a year. geithner says that's a must. >> there's not going to be an agreement without rates going up. >> reporter: the administration's plan also included $50 billion in new stimulus spending. boehner says the entire proposal represented three weeks of wasted time. >> i was just flabbergasted. i looked at him and said you can't be serio
by passing legislation to stop all the tax hikes. to replace the sequester, and pave way for -- pave the way for tax reform and entitlement reform. and we're the only ones with a balanced plan to protect the economy, protect american jobs, and protect the middle class from the fiscal cliff. but without spending cuts and entitlement reforms, it's going to be impossible to address our country's debt crisis. and get our economy going again and to create jobs. so right now, all eyes are on the white house. the country doesn't need a victory lap. it needs leadership. it's time for the president, congressional democrats, to tell the american people what spending cuts they're really willing to make. with that i'll take a few questions. >> speaker boehner, why will you not tell democrats what specific spending cuts you would like to see, especially within en titlements? >> it's been very clear over the last year-and-a-half, i've talked to the president about many of them. you can can look at our budget. where we outline very specific proposals that we passed in last year's budget and the budget from
benefits or certain tax breaks that married people who happen to be same sex should get or shouldn't get. so, there's a whole range of ways they could consider this. it doesn't mean they're just going to go in and determine that a law against same-sex marriage is illegal discrimination. there are a lot of other things they can do with it. >> benefits are one thing. recognition and allowance is another thing. here's the other thing. it is real hard to get breaking material and information out of the supreme court before they're ready to give it but on occasion good connections yield something and yet a lock-up in terms of what they might do with prop 8 and doma. >> yeah. that's true. but you have to remember, on these big, sweeping social issues that the court has decided throughout history, desegregation of public schools comes to mind, brown versus the board of education, that sat on people's desks for a long time and a bunch of different cases that all sort of folded in to it. loving versus virginia. that was interracial marriage. that was another case that sat around a long time becau
lawmakers in these two buildings do or don't do. if they do nothing, everyone's taxes go up and automatic spending cuts take effect. still, it appears congress and the president are digging in with no deal in sight. >> if they are going to force hi higher rates on virtually all americans because they're unwilling to let tax rates go up on 2% of americans, then that's a choice they're going to have to make. >> this isn't an issue about democrats or republicans. my goodness, this is about our country. >> well, one thing both sides agree on is the government needs to raise more money. how much? how they do it? those are two of the many sticking points and the clock is ticking. >>> a series of suicide car bombings leave five people dead in eastern afghanistan today. inis yo no reports of any u.s. casualties. the taliban has claimed responsibility for the attacks. >>> and in wyoming a college teacher may have saved the lives of several of his students. authorities are praising the instructor's actions. he tackled a man who barged into the classroom, shooting the instructor in the head with a h
cuts and tax hikes actually kick in. now, the president, he is standing firm saying there's not going to be a deal medicals taxes for the wealthiest americans go up. the president is offering $400 billion in cuts from entitlements, but he also wants to spend $50 billion more on infrastructure. go to house speaker john boehner. he is offering $800 billion in increased revenue. he also wants much deeper cuts in entitlements and $800 billion in other cuts many spending. we've got reporters -- i want to start off with you. dana bash on the hill. a standoff here, republicans essentially saying, look, the president is not being reasonable here, and then you have the white house saying this is magic beans and fairy dust. is this a lot of posturing here? are we really at an impasse? >> yes to both of those questions. there is a lot of post urg, but we do seem to be at an impasse. i want to show our viewers some video that will illustrate just what we're talking about. that is pictures of members of the house of representatives leaving for the week, and now, i don't want tower viewers to get c
that they were going to, you know, pull out support, cut the tax revenues, but in the end the palestinian hort is important to israel because they provide the policing there. israel doesn't want to have to go back in and take over, and that's exactly what abbas threatened them with. i'll give you the keys to the palestinian authority headquarters. come and take them. the israelis really don't want them. >> i sense this is an important story. i mean, obviously. you are talking about the palestinians that suffer greatly if the u.n. pulled out that money and leverage there, but they are moving -- >> the u.s. has to be careful not to be on the wrong side. i mean, there's a change here that's taking place in the middle east. look at syria today, what's happening all across the middle east. >> okay. we got to leave it there. >> all right. >> thank you very much. >>> they're buzzing overhead. they are actually looking down on us from above. we're going to tell you why it is not just terror suspects who are being watched by drones and why some think the new technology could be violating our privacy. m
cliff. i mean you're probably sick of hearing that term fiscal cliff, debt ceiling, tax increases. got a lot of us worried that we're at the mercy of a feckless congress behaving more like stubborn kids than responsible lawmakers. wait. we did promise you a dream off the top of the show. imagine for a moment what it would be like if none of this fiscal cliff nonsense mattered the least bit to you. no debts. no family budgets. and a half billion dollars worth of powerball dreams. that is the jackpot, folks. the powerball jackpot. it just so happens to take millions of us buying up tickets to fatten up that jackpot to that big old size. alison kosic is at a 7-eleven in new york basically meeting a few of the wanna-be one percenters. the truth of the matter, what are the odds? >> reporter: i know. i hate to throw cold water on your whole dream statement that you gave. yes this is all about dreams but you know the odds of winning are really low. 175 million to 1. those are your odds. you know what? i can't help but dream, too. i got a ticket here. one ticket, it could be the winning one. a
fall off the fiscal cliff. avoiding it -- if they do nothing, everyone's taxes go up and automatic spending cuts will take effect. no imminent deal is in sight. >> if they are going to force higher rates on virtually all americans, because they're unwilling to let tax rates go up on 2% of americans, then that's a choice we're going to have to make. >> i would say we're nowhere. period. we're nowhere. we have put a serious offer on the table by putting revenues up there to try to get this question resolved. but the white house has responded with virtually nothing. they have actually asked for more revenue than they have been asking for the whole entire time. >> in other words not quite a good place to be, but both sides agree that the government needs to raise more money. how much and how they do it are two of the major sticking points. >>> and protests and a constitutional crisis, what is next for egypt. we'll dig deeper into the struggle for power between conservative islamists and liberal secularists. and later, brad pitt talks about his future with angelina jolie. >>> and a dog
know you have all heard of the so-called fiscal cliff, the huge tax hikes and spending cuts that will be triggered if congress and the white house don't reach a budget deal by the end of the month. well, what are we looking at? first, cuts in defense. also bush era tax cuts set to x expire, so the majority of americans will pay more taxes. also at stake, the payroll tax holiday and unemployment benefits expect to get cut. dana, in your most recent column, you say it doesn't seem like anyone is doing anything but photo ops and news conferences. one politician was quoted as saying, effectively, we have a month. that's loads of time. is this a sophisticated game of chicken? >> it's a rather unsophisticated game of chicken, kind of elementary. what they're doing, both sides really, is doing a lot of posturing and waiting until they get close to the deadline if not go over the deadline because they feel if they go over the deadline, they're in a position to tell their hard core supporters, look, we have really got to make this deal now or that's the end. the economy goes back in
on this tax issue? he has no sway with republicans. by the way, this idea of bringing mitt romney into the obama administration is -- honestly, it's laughable. the guy ran against everything that obama stands for. >> it worked on the west wing. >> with all due respect as well, president obama -- this isn't coming from some right winger. you can take that out of your ears. it comes from reporters across capitol hill. president obama doesn't like doing these things. he doesn't like the personal interaction. and he certainly isn't one known to set aside his grudge. so i don't see any place for mitt romney inside an obama administration. >> i still think it would be nice. wait a second. wait a second. i think it would be nice for symbolism sake, perhaps, if president obama and mitt romney came out after that luncheon and appeared before cameras, said a few things and walked away. wouldn't that be nice, roland? >> no, no. >> come on. yes, it would. >> no, it wouldn't. no, it wouldn't. first of all, what are they going to say? the salmon's great? come on. the bottom line is if you're th
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